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I don't mean to be too hard on handwriting experts, i just think it is too tough of an art to qualify as "scientific evidence". This is a somewhat lame example, but it sounds like the author of this news story hired 3 experts to look at a cold case. They disagreed.
| The experts contacted for this story examined a letter and a receipt known to have been written by Linda Sohus prior to her disappearance... ...They also scrutinized a postcard mailed from France after the couple vanished from their Lorain Road home in February 1985. Two of the examiners said the postcard was not written by Linda Sohus. But a third said she is nearly certain it was written by Linda. |
In defense of 2 of the analysts, the one with the differing opinion also practices graphology.
| "Many of the letters butt up against each other, showing a lack of clear social boundaries," Lowe wrote. "The bowed t-bars suggest that she could easily be talked into or out of doing something." |
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Handwriting analysis should not be used in trial for forensic evidence. The same person can write two or three different ways depending on the mood. Two different people can write the same way. Evidence is not solid when handwriting is used. It can only be substantial.
-EAF
I wonder if the "experts" took into consideration that the type of pen used could cause a slight deviation in the writing pattern? I know that my handwriting varies and depends a great deal on the type of pen that I use.
LSR
I think it's great that Lowe practices graphology and is also the author of "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Handwriting Analysis.” It kills me that some people confuse graphology with forensic document examination.
-CTB
I don't think that handwriting should ever be used as evidence for the simple fact that with time and concentration anyone can mimick someone's penmanship. It's absurb how someone could try and portray this type of art as cold hard evidence.
I don't think that handwriting should ever be used as evidence for the simple fact that with time and concentration anyone can mimick someone's penmanship. It's absurb how someone could try and portray this type of art as cold hard evidence.
-KNS
I have always thought it was ridiculours for handwriting to be considered forensic evidence. My handwriting is different every time I pick up a pencil. It depends on if I am rushed or if I can take my time. I once had a teacher who compared my handwriting for two different tests. It was completely different. If she could not have trusted me, she would have made a big mistake. Handwriting analysis should never be used in evidence.
SAV
well, i'd like to bring up an opposing viewpoint to everyone's opinion, but i am pretty much on the same page.
one good thing that can be said about these less reliable forms of forensic evidence is that they can still be useful in an investigation, as long as investigators don't overcommit to what the analysis suggests. but no good in court, i agree.
HA! she did write the complete idiot's guide. classic! good find.
It is unfortunate that true forensic document examiners are often painted with the same brush as graphologists. Graphology is a pseudo-science that claims to analyze personality through handwriting. Forensic document examination involves identifying a particular writer to a source through analysis and comparison of similarities and differences in the features of the handwriting specimens. While it is true that some people have varying styles of writing, and that small amounts of writing, such as signatures, can sometimes be sucessfully imitated, it is very difficult to "forge" larger bodies of writing. True forensic document examiners will request sufficient quantities of known handwriting samples from a writer, in order to allow the entire range of a writer's variation to be accounted for. This allows a meaningful comparison to be made. Document examiners will request sample comparison dictated material be obtained on a similar writing surface and paper, and using a writing instrument similar to that used in the questioned document. They will also request writing that was written in the "normal course of business", that is, usual writing from a person's life that was prepared naturally, before the person's writing came under investigation. A person's handwriting is unique and identifiable to a particular person as long as there is enough of it to compare, as long as it is of sufficient quality, and as long as it possesses sufficient "complexity", that is, enough features and letter forms to permit identificaton. The content of the sample writing must also comparable to the questioned material. It must contain the same letters and words, and must be written in a similar style. In other words, hand printing cannot be compared to cursive handwritten material. Handwriting has been accepted in the U.S. courts for over 100 years. Much research has been done to prove that individuality of handwriting exists, and these results have been published. I think the fact that a graphologist was involved in this case account for the "dispute." Sorry to go on for so long about this, I just hate to see forensic document examination get a bad rap.
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I don’t know that I am a firm believer in the use of handwriting analysis as “evidence” in a crime. I have to agree with the two analysts who said the postcard (http://a11news.com/454/jonathan-and-linda-sohus/) was written by someone other than Linda Sohus. Differences I noted were:
1. The “a” is similar to the letter only in one spot on the postcard
2. all “Ys” on the postcard have loops at the bottom… no open tails
3. the “g” in the postcard, like the “y” has a closed tail … letter sample is open
One analyst, Shelia Lowe, stated, “By themselves each item would not have a great deal of significance…But all together in the same known writing, they provide strong evidence of being the same writer. If this were my court case, that's how I would testify."
What strong evidence??? I don’t think we’re looking at the same writing samples.
The article then says that Lowe did note some differences in the writing. “There are certainly differences in the samples, but they are explainable - and that's the test," she wrote in an e-mail.”
Explainable HOW?? What’s the scientific explanation??
Handwriting is tricky. Some would argue that it does not change overtime, I beg to differ. After using a keyboard for more than 20 yrs, I can honestly say that my handwriting is much different… horrible even. Also, it could be possible that in the time that lapsed from the letter sample and the postcard sample that maybe Linda’s fingers were broken and as a result her handwriting changed… or Linda acquired a rapid developing case of rheumatoid arthritis (no offense to those who have this horrible disease) and the handwriting on the postcard is a result of her disfigured hand… There are too many outstanding questions to use this as solid evidence. (AAC)
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